Včelařská konference

Posledni dobou jsem obdrzel jiz nekolik mailu podobneho razu. Dovolim
si k tomuto jen dve poznamky:

1, doufam, ze nikoho nenapadne odesilatelum poskytovat nejake osobni
udaje! Jak to tak sleduji lidem tohoto razeni jde bud o to, aby
vyprali spinave penize nebo aby vam zrujnovali ucet.

2, nechapu, jak je mozne, ze tyto maily chodi pres konferenci! (Na
to, ze z ni jsou rozesilany viry jsem si jiz zvykl :-O)))

S pozdravem Kuba



Dne 12. říjen 2002, Vcelarska konference, <vcely/=/v.or.cz> napsal:

> 0031613777023
> AMSTERDAM,
> THE NETHERLANDS.
>
>
>
> CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS PROPOSAL.
>
> You may be surprised to receive this letter from me
> since you do not know me personally. I am Sodindo Malinga, the first son of Tawanda Malinga,the most popular black farmer in Zimbabwe who was murdered in the land dispute in my country. I got your contact
> through network online hence decided to write you.
> Before the death of my father, he had taken me to
> Johannesburg to deposit the sum of US8.6 million
> (Eight million, Six Hundred thousand United States
> dollars), in one of the private security company,
> as he foresaw the looming danger in Zimbabwe this money was deposited in a box as gem stones to avoid much demurrage from security company. This amount was meant for the purchase of new machines and chemicals for the Farms and establishment of new farms in Swaziland.
> This land problem came when Zimbabwean President Mr.
> Robert Mugabe introduced a new Land Act Reform
> wholly affecting the rich white farmers and some
> few black farmers, and this resulted to the killing and mob action by Zimbabwean war veterans and some lunatics in the society. In fact a lot of people were killed because of this Land reform Act for which my father was one of the victims.
>
> It is against this background that, I and my family
> fled Zimbabwe for fear of our lives and are
> currently staying in the Netherlands where we are
> seeking political asylum and moreso have decided to
> transfer my fathers money to a more reliable
> foreign account. since the law of Netherlands
> prohibits a refugee (asylum seeker) to open any
> bank account or to be involved in any financial
> transaction throughout the territorial zone of Netherlands, As the eldest son of my father, I am saddled with the responsibility of seeking a genuine foreign account where this money could be transferred without the knowledge of my government who are bent on taking everything we have got. The South African government seems to be playing along with them.
>
> I am faced with the dilemma of moving this amount of
> money out of South Africa for fear of going through
> the same experience in future, both countries have
> similar political history. As a businessman,I am
> seeking for a partner who I have to entrust my
> future and that of my family in his hands, I must let you know that this transaction is risk free. If you accept to assist me and my family, all I want you to do for me, is to make an arrangements with the security company to clear the consignment(funds) from their afiliate office here in the Netherlands as i have already given directives for the consignment to be brought to the Netherlands from South Africa.But before then all modalities will have to be put in place like change of ownership to the consignment
> and more importantly this money I intend to use for
> investmentment.
>
> I have two options for you. Firstly you can choose
> to have certain percentage of the money for nominating your account for this transaction. Or you can go into partnership with me for the proper profitable investment of the money in your country. Whichever the option you want, feel free to notify me. I have also mapped out 5% of this money for all kinds of expenses incurred in the process of this transaction.
> If you do not prefer a partnership I am willing to
> give you 10% of the money while the remaining 85%
> will be for my investment in your country. Contact me
> with the above telephone number or my E-mail address
> while I implore you to maintain the absolute
> secrecy required in this transaction.
>
> Thanks, GOD BLESS YOU
>
> Yours Faithfully,
> Sodindo Malinga.

______________________________________________________________________
Reklama:
Nejenom anglicko-cesky slovnik: http://slovnik.seznam.cz

Já se omlouvám všem včelařům za odeslaní autora někam... ale chodí spousta
podobných nejen z konference.

s pozdravem Martin Kupka


-----Original Message-----
From: Jakub Šmerda [mailto:Jsmerda/=/seznam.cz]
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Vcelarska konference
Subject: Re: CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS ASSISTANCE.


Posledni dobou jsem obdrzel jiz nekolik mailu podobneho razu. Dovolim
si k tomuto jen dve poznamky:

1, doufam, ze nikoho nenapadne odesilatelum poskytovat nejake osobni
udaje! Jak to tak sleduji lidem tohoto razeni jde bud o to, aby
vyprali spinave penize nebo aby vam zrujnovali ucet.

2, nechapu, jak je mozne, ze tyto maily chodi pres konferenci! (Na
to, ze z ni jsou rozesilany viry jsem si jiz zvykl :-O)))

S pozdravem Kuba



Dne 12. říjen 2002, Vcelarska konference, <vcely/=/v.or.cz> napsal:

> 0031613777023
> AMSTERDAM,
> THE NETHERLANDS.
>
>
>
> CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS PROPOSAL.
>
> You may be surprised to receive this letter from me
> since you do not know me personally. I am Sodindo Malinga, the first son
of Tawanda Malinga,the most popular black farmer in Zimbabwe who was
murdered in the land dispute in my country. I got your contact
> through network online hence decided to write you.
> Before the death of my father, he had taken me to
> Johannesburg to deposit the sum of US8.6 million
> (Eight million, Six Hundred thousand United States
> dollars), in one of the private security company,
> as he foresaw the looming danger in Zimbabwe this money was deposited in
a box as gem stones to avoid much demurrage from security company. This
amount was meant for the purchase of new machines and chemicals for the
Farms and establishment of new farms in Swaziland.
> This land problem came when Zimbabwean President Mr.
> Robert Mugabe introduced a new Land Act Reform
> wholly affecting the rich white farmers and some
> few black farmers, and this resulted to the killing and mob action by
Zimbabwean war veterans and some lunatics in the society. In fact a lot of
people were killed because of this Land reform Act for which my father was
one of the victims.
>
> It is against this background that, I and my family
> fled Zimbabwe for fear of our lives and are
> currently staying in the Netherlands where we are
> seeking political asylum and moreso have decided to
> transfer my fathers money to a more reliable
> foreign account. since the law of Netherlands
> prohibits a refugee (asylum seeker) to open any
> bank account or to be involved in any financial
> transaction throughout the territorial zone of Netherlands, As the eldest
son of my father, I am saddled with the responsibility of seeking a genuine
foreign account where this money could be transferred without the knowledge
of my government who are bent on taking everything we have got. The South
African government seems to be playing along with them.
>
> I am faced with the dilemma of moving this amount of
> money out of South Africa for fear of going through
> the same experience in future, both countries have
> similar political history. As a businessman,I am
> seeking for a partner who I have to entrust my
> future and that of my family in his hands, I must let you know that this
transaction is risk free. If you accept to assist me and my family, all I
want you to do for me, is to make an arrangements with the security company
to clear the consignment(funds) from their afiliate office here in the
Netherlands as i have already given directives for the consignment to be
brought to the Netherlands from South Africa.But before then all modalities
will have to be put in place like change of ownership to the consignment
> and more importantly this money I intend to use for
> investmentment.
>
> I have two options for you. Firstly you can choose
> to have certain percentage of the money for nominating your account for
this transaction. Or you can go into partnership with me for the proper
profitable investment of the money in your country. Whichever the option you
want, feel free to notify me. I have also mapped out 5% of this money for
all kinds of expenses incurred in the process of this transaction.
> If you do not prefer a partnership I am willing to
> give you 10% of the money while the remaining 85%
> will be for my investment in your country. Contact me
> with the above telephone number or my E-mail address
> while I implore you to maintain the absolute
> secrecy required in this transaction.
>
> Thanks, GOD BLESS YOU
>
> Yours Faithfully,
> Sodindo Malinga.

______________________________________________________________________
Reklama:
Nejenom anglicko-cesky slovnik: http://slovnik.seznam.cz

On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Jakub Šmerda wrote:

> 2, nechapu, jak je mozne, ze tyto maily chodi pres konferenci! (Na
> to, ze z ni jsou rozesilany viry jsem si jiz zvykl :-O)))

Vzhledem k tomu, ze adresa konference je adresou jako kazda jina, muze
kdokoli cokoli do konference poslat. To je dan za volny pristup k diskusi.
Je problem vetsiny elektronickych konferenci. Uvedenou nabidku jsem v
posledni dobe obdrzel asi desetkrat, vetsinou pres konference. Filtrovat
zpravy podobneho druhu automaticky je problematicke, takze nejlepsi reseni
je proste takove zpravy ignorovat.

Timto se zaroven omlouvam za zpravu mimo bezna temata konference.

Jirka Borik <jiri.borik/=/volny.cz>

AD spamy přes konferenci:


> Posledni dobou jsem obdrzel jiz nekolik mailu podobneho razu.

................

> nechapu, jak je mozne, ze tyto maily chodi pres konferenci!


Když to sem spamer pošle, tak to konferenční robot prostě rozešle.
Můžeme zařídit, že robot bude rozesílat jen takové příspěvky, které
přijdou z adresy některého z přihlášených účastníků (mailing list).
Doposavad je to tak, že příspěvek do konference můžete poslat z
jakékoliv adresy, a on se pak rozešle na adresy všech přihlášených
účastníků (mailing list).

Osobně mám pocit, že zatím těch spamů není tolik (a jsou i bez
otevírání rozpoznatelné ze "subjectu" - předmětu, takže je možné je
ihned smazat), abychom kvůli nim museli nějak omezovat provoz
konference. Ale bude-li to přání účastníků, klidně to spustíme.

Provoz webového rozhraní konference by zůstal bez jakýchkoliv změn.


> (Na to, ze z ni jsou rozesilany viry jsem si jiz zvykl :-O)))

Musím se přátelsky ohradit. Nakolik je mi známo, tak konferenční robot
nerozesílal žádný virus.

Nemůžeme za to, že zavirované počítače některých účastníků rozesílaly
na některé adresy jiných účastníků konference zavirované maily, které
se tvářily (jen to tak vypadalo), jakoby to byly příspěvky z
konference...

Sleduji provoz konference na několika e-mailových adresách. Na některé
adresy zavirovaný "jakoby-konferenční" mail dorazil, na některé
nepřišlo nic. Pochopitelně to fungovalo tak, že virus dorazil na
adresu, ze které přispívám do konference, ale na adresy, na kterých
provoz konference jen sleduji, žádný zavirovaný mail nedorazil. Při
analýze zavirovaných mailů (pseudo-příspěvků), které k nám dorazily,
jsme vždy konstatovali, že nešly přes konferenčního robota, ale
doputovaly vždy přímo od zavirovaného účastníka (i když jeho přesnou
adresu je těžko zjistit, protože virus za sebou zametá stopy - tj.
falšuje konečnou zpáteční adresu: "from").

Viz o tom něco i v mém příspěvku z 3. 10. 2002 s tématem "virus".

Omlouvám se za tento nevčelařský příspěvek, leč na aktuální téma
včelařské konference.

J. P. Baudiš


> Dne 12. říjen 2002, Vcelarska konference, <vcely/=/v.or.cz> napsal:

>> 0031613777023
>> AMSTERDAM,
>> THE NETHERLANDS.
>>
>>
>>
>> CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS PROPOSAL.
>>
>> You may be surprised to receive this letter from me

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